i was wondering why it said “left in 30m”, when the intersection was right upon me. My only gripe with my unit (Garmin Edge Explore) is that it takes about 3 minutes to load navigation for those courses for a 20km ride. I have 100’s saved (i.e. The thinking being that if they see significant success, then perhaps they’ll pull it into the product natively. • Contact Us Or to a general Garmin device? doing a structured workout: Use the CIQ widget link to apps.garmin.com. Generally RideWithGPS and Garmin Connect courses have been my primary route planning tools. When you restart your Garmin device it will then resync the routes. $0-$39.99. Just tried this for Komoot and I only got an option on the linking permissions for Activities not for Courses. • Submit News As a former Wahoo user who switched to an Edge 530 and who uses komoot for all his planning I am dreaming of a world where navigating a komoot route triggers live segments too but that will probably never happen due to the strange Garmin implementation of Live segments…. * Looking for the best sports tech deals for the holidays? To me this indicates that they seem to use the route name / handle as an identifier rather than a unique id and, if true, is absolutely poor developing practice as it leads to inconsistencies like those mentioned above. The app and the first regional download are free with additional segments available for only $3.99. Is there a list of compatible devices anywhere? I haven’t found a way to do this but I do agree that most of the time I don’t really need that screen. The course shows up in the Strava Connect IQ app on the Edge 830 (unless my phone is nearby, in which case the 830 loses its mind because I guess it is thinking WiFi ??? 2. gimporter widget combined with the android/ios gexporter app (I have android). Is this not possible on the Fenix 6 Pro? I optimistic Garmin is trying to find that balance of native feature vs 3rd party dev. Plus, you'll be more awesome. Once we’ve starred a route is it there forever, or can we unstar and have it come off the Edge? * Downlaoding with the gexporter method requires to disable wifi, whether the widget is gimporter or GRouteLoader. I’ll poke some folks. or Edge 800 will work with this. I wonder what will happen if I add favorite segments in Strava – doubt this will trigger a re-export of the route but maybe it does work. Just browse to the gpx file in a File Manager and open it. Komoot is an impressive system with an easy-to-use interface and a great deal of functionality. This once again makes me feel like Garmin’s software engineers are not really using their devices…. We love learning the technology and celebrating innovation at every level -from crowdfunded start ups to major global brands- and sharing it all here with you! My old school Edge 500 is still alive! Although I still haven’t found how to make the Fenix 6 Pro switch to the ClimbPro screen automatically at the start of a climb. Been playing with the Komoot part of this for a few weeks now and it’s pretty seamless I like it. Thanks. Have look. Should be easy enough to test though, and then plug in an Edge/whatever to a computer and see if the course FIT file has an updated timestamp on it or not. That’s the bulk of the user base. ClimbPro showed several climbs that weren’t, and the altitude profile showed lots of high frequency jitter. I can still delete them from my courses on gamin’s website though. From reading through the comments there seems to be about even of “it worked” / “it didn’t work” for Komoot so something appears to be up for some of us! This affects the “Ascent remaining” field. Before the outage is concluded that if riding a Strava route synced this new way then for me no segments ever show up, starred or not. I found this very straightforward as it is generic. Yes, updates to routes are actually synced to Garmin devices, but deleting or even just renaming routes leads to unexpected results – those may just be my expectations, but I’d have preferred it if the unit always tries to mirror the data of the service the route is hosted on. Your email address will not be published. Of course, the concept behind this is that it’s an API that can be used by every platform, just like the Training/Workouts API of a year ago. A few questions. komoot ⭐ review. Why haven’t you yet released a review for XYZ product you mentioned months ago? Nice, but I suppose the 100 favorite route limitation on Garmin devices particularly the Edge 1000 still applies? Another workaround is the Komoot connect iq app. That’s because Garmin doesn’t have to be involved in it from a firmware/etc standpoint. Wahoo always offers a manual sync option on the unit to remove any doubt about the up-to-dateness of the data. Yay, something new for my ten year old Edge 800! That way you can be sure that what’s on your device is identical to what the contents of your Strava/Komoot account. Do you need a strava premium account for this to work ? I don’t know how many companies now use the Training API, but certainly far more than Wahoo’s selection of just Today’s Plan & Training Peaks. So close…. Douglas - Fullcoursetrails. BT ??? I just tried it out on my (Android) smartphone with Chrome as the browser. I can confirm that Connect has terrible elevation data. I volunteered to write a review since I’ve been playing with the app a lot this year, and found it to be genuinely useful. You can’t plan a route from point A to B if you don’t have an internet connection. Anyway, PacePro is still totally useless because it relies on GC. Of course only with Garmin. To be fair, I’d think we’d want it to sync anything to non-Edge devices. Course creation for use on the later garmins is a minefield. For now i’ll stick to the commit connect iq app. I am hoping this new look for Routes will mean some way to organise them. What does it do with courses already on the Garmin device? So expect plenty more platforms to start supporting this pretty quickly. you can export the route in Garmin Connect as a GPX file and then import that in Komoot. I was shocked to see the Komoots database included trails added to our network in just the last few months. • Ask A Stupid Question Hi. My Photography Gear: The Cameras and Equipment I Use Daily, DC Rainmaker 2019 swim, bike, run, and general gear list. – Location A → Location B → Location D Loop. sources: Awesome! Camel Trail, Cornwall. It works! Learn how your comment data is processed. Can be annoying if the course required many adjustments. Great news… Hopefully others like plotaroute will follow/+! We believe that going further is about a mindset, not miles. Bikerumor.com reaches close to one million passionate cyclists per month. And I’m with you, I’m a fan of RWGPS and their route planner. I have all the regions downloaded on my device. That happened to me on a barely-a-climb on another route. C) Sync your Garmin Whereas my older Forerunner 305 does actually receive the routes from Strava using this new method, but can’t open the .FIT file courses. I can even build a route using the heatmap showing me the most often ridden trails to include in my route. New routes are copying over but not existing routes. Today Garmin has released a new API that allows partners (namely, websites/platforms) to push routes straight to your Garmin, with no additional work for you. Unfortunately, it looks like it still deletes the cues just like manual importing into Garmin Connect Web does. I take things to a whole new level of interactive depth! I never used the old app anyway, I just exported the gpx file from strava and put it in the newfiles folder. Thanks Ray. But it’s also true that Wahoo only has routing partnerships with a few companies. Hi Ray, Furthermore if I rename a route in Komoot it appears a second, duplicated route on the device rather than actually updating the existing one. Q though – is there a limit to the amount of routes? Instead (and in contrast to Wahoo) Garmin’s devices seem to work with copies of the originals. Yes, it seems to sync everything to every (compatible) device, but ideally I would want my cycling routes on my edge and the other routes on my watches. 1. Any course of any type will send over. Someone somewhere (I need coffee now and can’t remember if it was here or on YouTube) basically found that it will only sync if there’s a single map unlocked. Komoot integrates seamlessly with Wahoo and Garmin but a GPS unit isn’t necessary, with the komoot app for iOS or Android you can use your smartphone to navigate. link to forums.garmin.com (over 2 years old) Sigh…, I had some issues toggling the switch which didn’t get recorded, i completely disconnected and reconnected via the strava page and it worked , (seems like the connection page from strave is under huge load at the moment so it may take some time to come up). Here is the photo of the strava imported route. Once the apps are installed, it is very straight forward process. Or, roll on to read up on all the details and nuances. Same request for route creation on a larger screen the STRAVA folks. The only real way to do it is to truncate my RSS feed to just a few lines, but then that hurts the umpteen thousands of people who use my RSS feed everyday (though, it would significantly benefit my page views). • How We Make Money Back a few weeks ago I did a bit if a culling of my Strava routes collection. RWGPS is always the better option for me (Garmin sucks hard) and it’s not too tricky to export / import on my laptop in less than a minute. Required fields are marked.If you would like a profile picture, simply register at Gravatar, which works here on DCR and across the web. • About Us, Wider spacing Brings Litespeed Pinhoti Boost up to speed with 27.5+ or 29″ wheels, Win a Specialized Turbo Levo and more by supporting 139 Fund & Backcountry Lifeline, Valeo combines electric motor with automatic transmission to revolutionize e-bikes. If you use this, the elevation profiles will be correct. – Location A → Location B → Location C Loop Here’s a bunch of random trip reports and daily trip-logs that I’ve put together and posted. link to forums.garmin.com (One year old thread) Photo: Komoot. Yes, very cumbersome – no offense to the author of said widget as this is a limitation that shouldn’t exist in the first place, but I couldn‘t consider this a worthwhile solution. – Komoot routes immediately started synching with Garmin connect and my device. The 830 is running the current firmware (6?). I would like to support DCR and enjoy ad-free DC Rainmaker ($20 per year). I noticed an oddity with deleting imported routes out of the garmin connect app. Are there any plans for ridewithgps routes ? Load it on my Garmin as an overlay with the entire trail system in the background. All these metthods bypasse GC and the elevation data are correct, rendering ClimbPro useful again. When you sync these courses in, they actually show up in your Garmin Connect account as well, which is how/why they get to your watch/bike computer. Need some kind of filing/directory structure to help with this. As long as you can export a komoot route, it can synch it. I might try to reset the 520 and see if that helps? Any changes (editing, deleting, renaming) made in the source should immediately propagate to my bike computer. Where we wouldn’t want it to do things though is sync running routes for example to an Edge, but would to a Fenix/Forerunner. In most locations, they are slightly more accurate than SRTM1 files.”. – Doesn’t sync to your device when an activity is underway (this was a key one I was hoping for) Yay! Like this but there’s one huge gap. No problem, the product comparison data is constantly updated with new products and new features added to old products! I found some weird bug that gives you different altitude readings depending on wether you import the course via Komoot Connect IQ or via Connect – this also seems to affect turn by turn notifications. Doesn’t seem to be a way to selectively sync to a specific device, unfortunately, which would make it vastly more useful. Try again later. I will learn a new route builder if it is worth it. Then I connected Komoot to Garmin, nothing doing..broke the link totaly – did it again and still nothing – it doesn’t show up in Connect desktop or App, any advice Ray? Of course – does that matter? Thank you also for showing me how to broadcast from my Forerunner 235 since my original ANT+ only strap doesn’t really do the trick anymore. The good, the bad, and the ugly. Thanks a lot. The actual number was 2475 ft. That’s a pretty typical difference in my experience. FYI, you do get a free map download (which I don’t think you need to do this) but there are no maps for us down here so nothing to get for free. Komoot is designed specifically to be easy to use, so it’s great for introducing people to the outdoors. What I would like to see now from Garmin is the ability to be able to sync new routes to a Garmin edge device when you have already started an activity. Update: i managed to beat it into submission. You probably stumbled upon here looking for a review of a sports gadget. Basic function. does it show correct elevation data?or, once the route is in the Edge, can you check how much elevation gain does it show? You must have a Strava premium account to use this in your phone? Ray has provided some sort of answer above (#26) ‘it’ll sync Strava segments’ but I don’t know if it answers the question of whether it’ll show live segments whilst following a route that has been sycnd in this manner. (Note: I’m not saying they’ve nailed everything, god now. I guess that means they’ve been advertising with us this summer, but I don’t really know. Unfortunately after some further experimentation this API confirms my initial impressions and seems very strange. If I unstar or delete a previously synced course will it still be present on the Garmin device or will that also sync and be removed from the device? No frustrating half-baked Strava Connect IQ app to deal with, or clunky pairing steps. If it had Garmin‘s excellent routing capabilities I‘d gladly pay the premium price, but as it stands I‘m still very much torn between both units and wonder if I shouldn’t be reasonable and tolerate the poor software / UX experience of the overall more complete and significantly cheaper device. It screws up Climb Pro with ridiculous “maroon” sections of the climb that show wildly varying elevation changes, like a sawtooth profile. It did for me on my first test ride. link to komoot.com. Users create their own routes, called “Tours” within Komoot (their mapping is built on OpenStreetMaps), and can tips and recommendations -like a great viewpoint, coffee shop, or trail segment- to their Tours, too. Unfortunately no or at least I haven’t managed it and someone confirmed it on garmin forums. This is awesome! Does this work on the Venu and vivoactive 4s smartwatches? In this case, I just created it on mobile, and then I left the default to have it starred. I’m afraid you have to blame Google for the crummy satellite imagery, as they are the source in this case. John Harness, I had the same issue. This is independent of the device, it’s a GC problem and it’s frankly embarrassing. Aha! Double-check that you’ve got at least one region unlocked (unlocking one region is free) before doing a sync (within Komoot). See my post further up around #126 So you’ll see a copy there, just an FYI: Meanwhile, over on the Komoot side, if you haven’t synced up your Garmin to Komoot accounts yet, you’ll need to do that. I have started using Komoot while on holidays, and before I knew this syncing existed. And with that, you’re done! “All of this is just the beginning – in the next couple of months we’ll be releasing a whole new look for Routes on the web and some exciting new ways to compete on segments.”…. I’m not sure how many, but those two routes I listed above are basically one and the same route to the Garmin unit – it doesn’t recognize the difference in Location C/D. I’m from out of the country and will be visiting the US, what’s the best triathlon shop in city XYZ? Just scroll to the app and the Edge make it clear with elevation 2-4 as... Strava nor Garmin seem to work with Komoot ; ) is gimporter or grouteloader smartphone... 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