Before getting to the issue of the capture and killing of the popes, the author wishes to explain the basis for the interpretation he derives for the head wound. Growing up I gullibly accepted the narrative of 1929 and the healing of the wound without questioning its validity, partly because the argument was quite convincing. Nineveh opened its gates to the besiegers, but this tardy submission did not save the proud city. It was pillaged and burned, and then razed to the ground so completely as to evidence the implacable hatred enkindled in the minds of subject nations by the fierce and cruel Assyrian government.” (Lenormant and E. Chevallier, The Rise and Fall of Assyria). [5] Matthew E. Bunson quotes from Encyclopedia of the Papacy 2:1188, in The Pope Who Outlasted a Tyrant, Catholic Answers. Kings 25:1-11. Individuals such as the late Dr. Samuel Bacchiocchi, contend that even a change from abolition to downfall, albeit an improvement, is still not a satisfactory representation of actual facts. So, the question arose in the author's mind, is the head wound what it is believed to be? Ensure that your Avada website & all plugins are maintained & updated at… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…, Time for a redesign? f('/~site/Scripts_ExternalRedirect/ExternalRedirect.dll?CMD=CMDGotoURL&H_SITEID=RTK1&H_AltURL=%2f%7esite%2ftp.gif&H_HSGOTOURL=http%3a%2f%2fweb4.realtracker.com%2fnetpoll%2fimulti.asp&user='+escape(user)+'&pn='+escape(partnerid)+'&pp='+escape(pp)+'&js=1&to=-360&userurl='+escape(location.href)+res); // -->. Among the many features that John saw and shares with his readers – seven heads, ten horns, ten crowns, names of blasphemy, mouth of a lion, feet of a bear, features of a leopard, the prophet also saw that this beast had received a mortal wounding to one of its heads, the which was also healed. And you will also notice that at no time did John saw when the beast received the wound or when the wound was healed. The papacy's power was considered at an end. That is to say that there is nothing in that chapter that suggest that the forty-two months would end with a deadly wound to one of the heads of the beast. Thus, a Pius was taken captive and killed, constituting the head wound. 87 1 August 2002, Samuele Bacchiocchi, Ph.   Progressing rapidly, he became treasurer of … ⁣His imprisonment effectively abolished Pius’s temporal power which the popes preceding him had held since the 8th century. This dogma has greatly enhanced the authority of the Pope, and discredits any attempt to attribute to 1798 the downfall of the papacy. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Retrieved on December 29, 2017 from https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-pope-who-outlasted-a-tyrant. 2. Although French Republican troops under the command of Napoleon Bonaparte invaded Italy, defeated the papal troops in 1796, when General Berthier marched to Rome on February 10, 1798 he entered it unopposed, proclaimed it a Roman Republic and demanded of the Pope the renunciation of his temporal power which the pope refused to concede to[15]. He ruled a political kingdom. Marketing your website online to generate leads & sales is crucial, and so is the customer exp… twitter.com/i/web/status/1…. The 4 heads represent the 4 kingdoms that arose out of Alexander the Great's kingdoms AFTER he died. The pope died in exile the following year. But the pope recovered and did not die (statements made by R. Joseph Rickaby, of the Jesuit Society in "The Modern Papacy," page 1, Catholic Truth Society, London, quoted in e-mail sent to the author on May 8, 2004). Of the fall of Assyria Isa. body was Papal (religious power), so also the heads are Papal (a religious power), and represent the Papacy after Feb. 15, 1798, when the powers granted by the decree of Justinian was removed. The gradual alienation of its one-time po­litical friends—such as, Austria, the German States, France, and England—through both po­litical and religious causes. But because of the decree of Feb. 15, 1798, the pope was without civil or territorial powers (and without powers over the people of God as mentioned in Daniel 7), so decided to try and resurrect the Papacy as it had once been. Chapter 6: The Deadly Wound and its Healing – 1798-1929 – The Things we were never told! If the events of 1798 represents the deadly wound of the papacy then that wound was two years later with the election of a new pope and the restoration of the papal states. Then, in 1797, the pope became very ill, and Napoleon, seeking to take advantage of the situation, gave orders that in the event of the pope's death, there were to be no successor popes elected and by this means the Papacy was to be stopped right there in it's tracks. The next logical question is: what was accomplished by the the capture of the pope on Feb. 20, 1798? “And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. 2And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. 3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.”Â. This brief outline of events suffices to show that it is inaccurate to speak of the “abolishment” or “downfall” of the Papacy in 1798. Retrieved from http://www.jewishhistory.org/destruction-of-the-first-temple/, [15] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_and_the_Catholic_Church, [16] See SEDE VACANTE 1799-1800 at http://www.csun.edu/~hcfll004/SV1800.html, [17] See Roman Republic (18th century) retrieved from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Republic_(18th_century), [18] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleon_and_the_Catholic_Church, [19] “On 30 September 1799, the Papal States were restored under Pope Pius VII in June 1800” Imperial City: Rome under Napoleon, Susan Vandliver, pp.21, [20] The Bulwark, Pius XI (1857-1939), October, 1922, p. 104. The problem here however, is that it doesn’t take a theologian or bible scholar to clearly notice that there is nothing in Revelation chapter 13 that even hints to a possible connection, direct or indirect, between the forty-two months of verse 5 and the deadly wound of verse 3. D. Retired Professor of Theology, Andrews University. This period ended in 1798 when General Berthier of Napoleon’s army conquered the various Italian states, and eventually took the reigning pope, Pius VI, prisoner to northern Italy and then back to southern France, where he died in August 1799. So they instead of realizing that 1) 1798 was not a deadly wounding to the papacy and 2) that the 1798 event was settled two years later, they continue to look for a future healing for the 1798 events. Retrieved on December 29, 2017 from http://www.nytimes.com/1981/12/13/theater/when-napoleon-captured-the-pope.html?pagewanted=all. They believe and teach that the wound is either been healing or is yet to be healed at a near future date. The wound inflicted upon Pope John Paul II in 1981 from which he recovered. From 30 to 249. Had Napoleon enforced that decree, the Papacy itself, not just the head, would have come to an end right there. There would indeed be more Pius' on the Papal throne during the time of the 7 heads. Rev. Either enforce the decree, or don't enforce it. Furthermore, Revelation 13 also tells us exactly how the deadly wound was inflicted to the beast’s head. So then, the question is, how then did advocates of the theory of the beast representing Roman Catholicism arrive at the 538 starting date and the 1798 ending date? And contrary to the common teaching regarding this beast, when the forty-two months are expired, there would be no resurgence of this beast power. Let us go back at the text one more time before we delve in: 1And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. The trouble is, it is not as straightforward as it might seem at first. He was let go eventually, probably because they decided that he had gotten the point by being captured and hauled off to prison. So I never stopped to ask the necessary and important questions like “what was the purpose of the 1929 event between the Vatican and the state of Italy? These and many other points of views must be unlearned. the Pope (Pius VI, reigned 1775-1799), who had been hostile to the Revolution, was carried to France, a prisoner, and within a few months was dead.”—Kenneth Scott Latourette, History of Chris-tianity, p. 1010 (1953). Then, if that is true, the basis for their objection to having the 1260 days applied to them is destroyed. A famous oracle had been given that “Nineveh should never be taken until the river became its enemy.” After a three month siege, “rain fell in such abundance that the waters of the Tigris inundated part of the city and overturned one of its walls for a distance of twenty stades. This web page is written to document what has been found and to show what the author believes is an effective, conclusive way to deal with the issues raised on the Catholic web page. The fact is, and you can verify this information independently if you do not believe me. There is nowhere in the chapter of Revelation 13 that speaks to a return or resurgence of the beast at the end of the 42 months. This means that the 1260 days of prophetic time referred to in Revelation 13 (the 42 months) applies to the combination of the Catholic Church and the nations or states.   13 again, read it again – vesrses1-3. Likewise, a kingdom that starts out as a religious power will be religious in it's second phase as well, unless there is an exception stated for this. The Popes were given civil and ecclesiastic power as a church/state, and they took the Emperor’s title of Pontifex Maximus, and the ‘ deadly head wound ‘ was healed. 4.The beast would receive a deadly wound “And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death…”(Revelation 13:3). Is the Catholic web page right? Thus they have taken two separate and unrelated verses in Revelation 13 and try to make them related; yet a true student of scripture will see that there is absolutely no link or correlation between the two verses. The fulfillment of the deadly wound took place in 1798. Pius. So, we can trust that God has the content there that he wants in both books and they should be studied together to properly understand both of them. In the majority of instances, the state didn't wait for the Catholic authorities to act, but prosecuted these cases themselves. Verse 10 mentions that a man who takes captive must be taken captive, and he who kills with the sword must also be killed with the sword. “When, in 1797, Pope Pius VI fell grievously ill, Napoleon gave orders that in the event of his death Thanks to the Jesuits. In the final analysis, this interpretation method using the body-heads-horns time progression as presented on this web page, eliminates all other possible captures and killings of the popes as contenders for fulfillment of the prophecy of the head wound, for those other capture and killing events prior to 1798 are simply ignored in the prophecy. 3. "He Who Does Not Remember History Is Condemned To Repeat It" The mission of T.U.R.N. The reader may or may not agree with their assessment of the Bible verses and historical events in question, but the reader cannot deny that this is an effective way to argue because many will believe the arguments of the Catholic web page. Any prior captures and killings of popes have absolutely nothing to do with the one shown on one of the heads of the leopard beast. Its like the Jews refusing to see that the Messiah had come over 2000 years ago and still look to the future for the coming of the Messiah. You won't find it! Based on the body-heads-horns progression of time through the 3 phases of this kingdom, this means that all wounding events relating to the Papacy on or before that date would have to be shown on the body of the beast, and all events happening after that date would be shown on the heads. A man who suffered a "non-survivable" execution-style gunshot to the head during a mugging in Cleveland has had a "miraculous" recovery possibly due to the intercession of Pope John Paul II. To Others" This removal of his kingship under God's definition had everything to do with the decree and absolutely nothing to do with the capture of the pope 5 days later and his subsequent death because the decree had already removed his authority over God's people. Few months after his death, the Cardinals met in Venice on December 8, 1799, and elected Barnaba Chiaramonti, who took the name of Pious VII, in deference to his predecessor.”. To begin, here are all the texts in Revelation 13 that pertain to the head wound of the leopard beast: Note the following facts are related in the verses above: So, how are you supposed to decipher what event this predicts? The Encyclopedia Britannica, 1990, Vol.26, p.938) says “The ultimate humiliation of the Church came when Pius VI was driven out of Rome by the French armies in 1798 and in the following year was taken captive by them and dragged back to France, where he died.” They were restored to power in 1929, which healed the deadly head wound. And likewise, horns will come AFTER the heads. Here in Revelation 5:6 & 12 we read the following about the Lamb. Once Napoleon had conquered Rome and reduced the Pope to a prisoner of war, he decided that he still needed a Pope to crown him Emperor. This event of 1798 (the imprisonment and death of the pope) did not abolish the papacy, the Vatican City was not destroyed, nor were the Papal States destroyed. This was a military event carried out by the mutinous troops of Emperor Charles V the Holy Roman Emperor on Rome, then part of the Papal States. Born on December 27, 1717, the new pope was fifty-seven at the time of his election. The identity of the beast being the church-state combination of the dark ages, we know that this identifies the Papacy as that agency which did this. French troops commanded by Napoleon Bonaparte defeated the … PIUS then is a CLUE as to what a head … Back tracing from the year 1798 is the only possible way that one could conceive of the year 538, as I have already demonstrated that there is absolutely nothing significant in the history of the papacy that happened in that year. Along with that is the belief that the leopard beast is the combination of church and state that occurred during the dark ages, which of course, specifically refers to the fact that the Catholic Church hierarchy controlled the state sufficiently that they could order the death of anyone who disagreed with them, and the state would carry out their will accordingly. The head wounded was the Pope: Pope Pius VI This occurred prior to the events of Rev. This means the pope was no longer able to function as head of a government that had for centuries persecuted people who worshipped God according to their conscience. 3And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.   They see Revelation 13:10 (capture and killing by sword) as explaining Revelation 13:3 (head wound), so there is no additional information to be gained in the head wound itself since the event is explained to be a capture and killing by the sword. The decree of Feb. 15, 1798, changed his authority over the people of God on that day and that day only. Such a claim is a very inaccurate representation of the historical facts. The year 1798 would present itself as the perfect candidate. The emperor received him respectfully, though the minister, Kaunitz, neglected even the ordinary rules of etiquette. The wound is to a head, not to the body of the beast (verse 3). The capture and his death did not accomplish that. The KJV translates Revelation 13:3, “and I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death”. 109 Acres is equivalent to lest that 0.2 square miles. // --> Click here to read their web page about this if you didn't click on it above (Please read it, for it is interesting). When the French Revolution gave rise to Napolean, his army captured Rome in 1798 and took Pope Pius VI prisoner. That authority lasted for 1260 years until in 1798 A.D. Napoleon’s army took the sitting Pope Pius VI captive. The illustration above clearly indicates that the head wound had to be an event that occurred AFTER the end of the church-state combination that existed for 1260 years because (1) the wound is to the head and not to the body of the beast and (2) Daniel instructs us that the heads represent powers that come AFTER the power represented by the body of a beast. John is describing in real-time this dreadful seven-head beast as he watches its emergence.   This implies that only the capture and killing AFTER Feb. 15, 1798, has any connection with the head wound. Retrieved on December 29, 2017 from https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/the-pope-who-outlasted-a-tyrant, [6] The Sack of Rome – May 6, 1527 may also be looked upon as a deadly wounding as well depending on what criteria constitute a deadly wound interpretation. Few months after his death, the Cardinals met in Venice on December 8, 1799, and elected Barnaba Chiaramonti, who took the name of Pious VII (to him was restored the papal states which he repossessed in the year 1800[19]), in deference to his predecessor. Hopefully, this helps the reader better understand the prophecy of the head wound. Therefore, the capture removed the man from his office but did not change the authority the office of pope itself possessed on the day of the capture of the pope. Then the King, convinced that the oracle was accomplished and despairing of any means of escape, to avoid falling alive into the enemy’s hands constructed in his palace an immense funeral pyre, placed on it his gold and silver and his royal robes, and then, shutting himself up with his wives and eunuchs in a chamber formed in the midst of the pile, disappeared in the flames. The decree in 1798 removed this dual authority. The new Pope was able to negotiate with Napoleon the Concordat in 1801 and the Organic Articles in 1802. Disturbing Facts We Were Never Told About The 42 Months And The Ten Horns. Therefore, any of the prior capture and killing events of popes they mention on their web site could fulfill this prophecy completely. We believe it is clear that God designed and gave the visions in both Daniel and Revelation, and God would be consistent with his use of symbols whether He was designing the visions given to Daniel, or whether He was designing the visions given to John. He chose not to. Number 1) it lost forever its temporal power as the papal states were never restored, 2) the pope had to renounced its claims over most of the city of Rome and all temporal claims and 3) all that it was left with was a sovereign state confined to a small 109 acre property within the city of Rome called the Vatican City. After verse three, nothing else was said either of the deadly wound or of its healing, except two transitory allusions to it during the description of the second beast from the earth as a way of making a distinction between the two beasts “to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed” vs. 12, “the beast which had the wound by the sword and did live” vs. 14. 13 because the wound is described as healed (in the past) The 7 heads of Rev. Finally, the third thing that you did not know about 1929 and the so-called healing of the deadly wound it this: VI. Bermuda, which is one of the smallest countries in the world, is 21 Square Miles. 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